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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 1/12/17 vs. VAN
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:29 AM ET
I'd agree that long term Ghost could be the odd man out.

Myers/Sanheim/Provorov would and should provide plenty of the offense. I think Hexy would value the size of the other guys over ghost. Plus the fact is all the other players are Hexy's guys.

As far as timing goes this year isn't the right time. Sometime next year and possibly the 2018 draft feels about the right time to make a trade like that
SeaIslelandLush
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jan 12 @ 11:33 AM ET
I had a curious question regarding the expansion draft and position designation ...

With all the talk a few days ago regarding Manning being a potentially wasted protected defenseman since he’d likely not be selected by LV, I was wondering what prevents a team from using a valuable forward they’d have to expose as a ‘temporary’ defenseman? For example, assuming Laughton stays with the Phantoms for the entire season, can they “experiment” with him for the final let’s say 10 games and arbitrarily say he’s a defenseman? I’d imagine there’s some rule, possibly games played, that prevents this since many teams have excess talent at one position vs the other.

In a more practical sense, someone like Byfuglien who has routinely shifted between forward and defense … what constitutes his expansion protected position?

Anyway on topic ... just ridiculous having Gudas as your healthy scratch tonight?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 12 @ 11:34 AM ET
Great Blog!

Given how pathetic the Canucks PP has looked as of late, I am going to say 3-2 Philly tonight.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 12 @ 11:35 AM ET
I had a curious question regarding the expansion draft and position designation ...

With all the talk a few days ago regarding Manning being a potentially wasted protected defenseman since he’d likely not be selected by LV, I was wondering what prevents a team from using a valuable forward they’d have to expose as a ‘temporary’ defenseman? For example, assuming Laughton stays with the Phantoms for the entire season, can they “experiment” with him for the final let’s say 10 games and arbitrarily say he’s a defenseman? I’d imagine there’s some rule, possibly games played, that prevents this since many teams have excess talent at one position vs the other.

In a more practical sense, someone like Byfuglien who has routinely shifted between forward and defense … what constitutes his expansion protected position?

Anyway on topic ... just ridiculous having Gudas as your healthy scratch tonight?

- SeaIslelandLush


The Canucks are not a gritty team, and NEVER fight when they don't have Dorsett or Gudbranson in the line up. You would be better off getting your most defensively sound D-men playing the Canucks.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:37 AM ET



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 12 @ 11:37 AM ET
Looking forward to all the stuff during stoppages tonight.

I mean we got plenty of people who could be the obscure playoff hero who gets honored.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 12 @ 11:37 AM ET
The Canucks are not a gritty team, and NEVER fight when they don't have Dorsett or Gudbranson in the line up. You would be better off getting your most defensively sound D-men playing the Canucks.
- Codes1087


Gudas is one of more sound D men.

I'm getting tired of the rotating why the hell do we have to scratch that D man. Let's make a move and get to 7.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 12 @ 11:39 AM ET
Seems like either Gudas or banged up as Bill and others have mentioned. Listed as healthy, but if true, NBD
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 12 @ 11:41 AM ET
I had a curious question regarding the expansion draft and position designation ...

With all the talk a few days ago regarding Manning being a potentially wasted protected defenseman since he’d likely not be selected by LV, I was wondering what prevents a team from using a valuable forward they’d have to expose as a ‘temporary’ defenseman? For example, assuming Laughton stays with the Phantoms for the entire season, can they “experiment” with him for the final let’s say 10 games and arbitrarily say he’s a defenseman? I’d imagine there’s some rule, possibly games played, that prevents this since many teams have excess talent at one position vs the other.

In a more practical sense, someone like Byfuglien who has routinely shifted between forward and defense … what constitutes his expansion protected position?

Anyway on topic ... just ridiculous having Gudas as your healthy scratch tonight?

- SeaIslelandLush


There isn't any public rule on that from what I know, but as you hinted, I would assume it has to do with the NHL tracking games played
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:43 AM ET
Tonights lineup per flyernutter:

Turd-Turd-Turd
Turd-Turd-Turd
Turd-Turd-Turd
Turd-Turd-Turd

Turd-Turd
Turd-Turd
Turd-Turd

Turd
(Turd)
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:44 AM ET
I guess Gudas is banged up a bit
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:50 AM ET
Tonights lineup per flyernutter:

Turd-Turd-Turd
Turd-Turd-Turd
Turd-Turd-Turd
Turd-Turd-Turd

Turd-Turd
Turd-Turd
Turd-Turd

Turd
(Turd)

- aightwebang17



BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:52 AM ET
Tonights lineup per flyernutter:

Turd-Turd-Turd
Turd-Turd-Simmonds
Turd-Turd-Turd
Turd-Turd-Turd

Turd-Provorov
Turd-Turd
Turd-Turd

Turd
(Turd)

FTFY
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:52 AM ET
LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!

- ggunky

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:53 AM ET
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Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 12 @ 11:57 AM ET
Great Blog!

Given how pathetic the Canucks PP has looked as of late, I am going to say 3-2 Philly tonight.

- Codes1087

Do not underestimate the Flyers ability to not show up for games like this.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 12 @ 11:58 AM ET
I don't want to say that if we lose tonight playoffs are completely out of the picture

But it does kinda feel that way.

As long as we don't get shut out I think mentally we'll still be relatively okay
SeaIslelandLush
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jan 12 @ 11:59 AM ET
The Canucks are not a gritty team, and NEVER fight when they don't have Dorsett or Gudbranson in the line up. You would be better off getting your most defensively sound D-men playing the Canucks.
- Codes1087


Gudas as surprising as it may be to fans of opposing teams is one of the best dmen on the team at generating chances by getting point shots on net and being able to skate and make a transitional pass. Replacing him with Streit is a downgrade IMO.

We all know who needed to be replaced but whats the use anymore understanding the lineup decisions.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 12 @ 12:02 PM ET
Gudas as surprising as it may be to fans of opposing teams is one of the best dmen on the team at generating chances by getting point shots on net and being able to skate and make a transitional pass. Replacing him with Streit is a downgrade IMO.

We all know who needed to be replaced but whats the use anymore understanding the lineup decisions.

- SeaIslelandLush


Gudas is the #2 d-man on this team after Provorov.

He was the #1 last year.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 12 @ 12:02 PM ET
Do not underestimate the Flyers ability to not show up for games like this.
- Mordecai


The Flyers have the roster to surprise and compete though. Unfortunetely the Canucks do not. The majority of our wins have solely been because we have had great goaltending. We just have a far inferior roster.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 12 @ 12:03 PM ET
Gudas as surprising as it may be to fans of opposing teams is one of the best dmen on the team at generating chances by getting point shots on net and being able to skate and make a transitional pass. Replacing him with Streit is a downgrade IMO.

We all know who needed to be replaced but whats the use anymore understanding the lineup decisions.

- SeaIslelandLush


Philly games aren't often televised for us on the west coast. I watch a ton of highlights though and try and keep up with some of the philly blogs. I envy your D prospects so much....
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 12 @ 12:05 PM ET
The Flyers have the roster to surprise and compete though. Unfortunetely the Canucks do not. The majority of our wins have solely been because we have had great goaltending. We just have a far inferior roster.
- Codes1087

We also have the roster to surprise and roll over and give away points to teams like you say Vancouver is.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 12 @ 12:05 PM ET
The Flyers have the roster to surprise and compete though. Unfortunetely the Canucks do not. The majority of our wins have solely been because we have had great goaltending. We just have a far inferior roster.
- Codes1087

You must have missed the Flyers scintillating effort against the Sabres Tuesday
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 12 @ 12:06 PM ET
Gudas as surprising as it may be to fans of opposing teams is one of the best dmen on the team at generating chances by getting point shots on net and being able to skate and make a transitional pass. Replacing him with Streit is a downgrade IMO.

We all know who needed to be replaced but whats the use anymore understanding the lineup decisions.

- SeaIslelandLush

So true. How frustrating is it?

I hope that he is done after tonight, however I know thats just wishful thinking.

Maybe if we get all of the fans in Philly to start talking about how amazing Amac is we can trick a team into thinking he is actually good.
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